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I hope they just haven't posted them yet. I'll wait 'til after lunch to call my dealer. I suspect he'll call me first.

If that's true, that's a deal breaker. Guess I'll keep the G8 GT for another year or two. I was really looking forward to getting that Stinger, but $7,200 is too much to throw away. [rant] I hope my dealer enjoys his lunch.....

Did Kia carry the February offers forward, or did I just lose $7,200 because Kia couldn't get my car to me on time?

Nice one. But one question: Where do you scuba in Las Vegas, ScubaSteve?

I'm sure the price includes the "lease cash" rebate from Kia. The rebate however, comes directly from Kia Corporate and the dealer has nothing whatsoever to do with it (unless you sign the rebate over to them which you should never do.) That net price without the rebate is far below the dealer...

Here are the numbers I know from my own purchase: The MSRP including the $900 "Inland freight and handling" is $52,300 on a GT2 AWD. The dealer invoice for that car is $49,113. A difference of $3,187 plus. That does not include any other dealer incentive or quota allowances that no one knows...

There are two places where ground clearance can rear its ugly head. Many driveways and drainage depressions are not engineered well and can gouge the front end. I have a LOT of trouble with that on my G8 and have many scrapes under the front airdam. You can avoid that most of the time by not...

Only trouble is, the island has a 35mph speed limit !! Been there, done that and got a T-shirt for my compliance with local laws and road conditions.

Yeah, thanks, I'm a chemist, so I'm quite familiar with that. And I agree that the cooler the intake air temperatures the more theoretical power you may generate. There might be some theoretical advantage under race conditions to make a case for slightly cooler intake air, but the dyno test...

Interesting. Assuming that the sensor (such as it is) is looking for random movement of the steering wheel (I don't know this, just guessing since I don't have a service manual available), it is possible in the first situation that there is enough vibration from road expansion joints, etc. that...

Interesting test on intake temperatures. Ultimately, the air temperature entering the intake is determined by the efficiency of the intercooler which is also a variable that depends on vehicle speed (and to some extend wind direction) and the air velocity moving across the cooling fins, and the...

Thumbs up are better than middle finger up, I always say. [coolsmile]

OK. I didn't think the mechanical LSD was used on the AWD.

I hand wash all my cars, never use a power wash. Soft fiber mitt and car soap from the same company that makes the wax I use (McGuires). Water does not remove the dirt well enough at car washes and you have to clay-bar the car before you wax it unless you hand-wash. My 13 year old GTO feels...

It was my understanding that AWD did not use LSD on the rear axle. Am I wrong? Makes a difference on the rear end lube used when changing it. Wish we had access to service manuals, but it's all online these days and proprietary.

The computer, according to the Kia engineers, is capable of 20/80 to 50/50 on the AWD. When using Launch, you only get a quick whiff of wheel spin and then either the computer pulls back on power until the tires grip, OR the brakes are being applied to the wheels to prevent wheel spin. Don't...

Torque vectoring means the computer will use wheel spin to determine how much power to allow to a wheel. If back tires are slipping then some of the power is sent to the front wheels and throttle is limited if all wheels are slipping (unless you turn traction control off to play around). If...

Nope. Nothing. (Haven't got my car yet.) [biggrin]

Might depend on whether you are in Sport mode with exhaust note enhancement. I find it rather amusing that people are spending hundreds to add intake and exhaust add-ons to make more noise and then complaining about noise. [like]

I don't have the exact reference in the user manual, but I recall reading that the steering wheel has a sensor (pressure or movement?) so that with the LKA active, it has to know you're holding the wheel and not trying to let the car drive itself. It is a safety feature to prevent inattention...