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my list of service issues at 1000 miles for 2018 2.0T AWD Stinger Premium

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Here they are (kind of concerned so far)...

Issues that reproduce 100% of the time:
- creaky hatch while driving on bumpy or rough roads (my dealer salesman has the same car as I do and service department has not been able to fix his) - annoying, better fix (lemon law if cannot fix?)
- sharp whistling noise from front of sunroof at 60+ mph, quite loud - annoying and distracting, dangerous, better fix (lemon law if cannot fix?)
- accelerator pedal clicks and moves to the right at full throttle - annoying and distracting, dangerous as accelerator could get stuck, better fix (lemon law if cannot fix?)
- not enough heat during winter compared to other cars I've owned, usually run at 68 to 70 deg, fan set at 2, fresh air manual mode, feet are cold and not feeling defrost heat either, plenty of heat in rear passenger area set at 50% - annoying, hopefully adjustable

Weird issues that are either being tracked down / investigated or do not reproduce 100% of the time:
- car drives in reverse when starting in manual shift mode, this has happened to me about 10 to 15 times (about 15% of the time) - annoying and distracting, dangerous, better fix (lemon law if cannot fix?), steps to reproduce are:
  1. Start car with foot on brake
  2. Move shifter from Park to Drive and then to left manual mode without shifting up or down in manual mode
  3. Take foot off brake and car goes backwards about 15% of the time (no issues when going from Park to Reverse)
  4. Foot back on brake, wonder WTF just happened, foot off brake and car goes forward
- electronics in or near center console might be erasing / resetting / damaging my AWID wireless parking garage card keys (happened twice in less than a month, purchased an EMF reader to see if I can pick anything up, plan on sending second problem card to AWID for technical analysis - annoying and distracting, possibly dangerous, better fix if caused by car (lemon law if cannot fix?)

Anyone else experiencing any of these issues besides multiple creaky hatch reportings?

Thanks,

Scott
 

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The one I wouldn't worry about is the clicking accelerator pedal, that's just the kickdown switch you're feeling. If you were to punch it, the engine goes to WOT, but if you push it to the kickdown switch, it forces another gear change to give you more speed.

I can't speak for any of the others, but I hope you can get everything resolved. Good luck...
 

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The one I wouldn't worry about is the clicking accelerator pedal, that's just the kickdown switch you're feeling. If you were to punch it, the engine goes to WOT, but if you push it to the kickdown switch, it forces another gear change to give you more speed.

I can't speak for any of the others, but I hope you can get everything resolved. Good luck...
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The one I wouldn't worry about is the clicking accelerator pedal, that's just the kickdown switch you're feeling. If you were to punch it, the engine goes to WOT, but if you push it to the kickdown switch, it forces another gear change to give you more speed.

I can't speak for any of the others, but I hope you can get everything resolved. Good luck...

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Who wants to feel this during driving, especially on a 1000 mile car?
 

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Who wants to feel this during driving, especially on a 1000 mile car?
It's only on Wide Open Throttle. MANY cars do it (Nissan Altima, Honda Accord). It's a report to the ECU to down shift and not to hold back.

You should only be feeling the click when on the floor.
 
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It's only on Wide Open Throttle. MANY cars do it (Nissan Altima, Honda Accord). It's a report to the ECU to down shift and not to hold back.

You should only be feeling the click when on the floor.
I never felt a click / shift in my 2012 Kia Optima SX or on my Stinger for the first 900 miles. It just started happening recently. Either way, it is unacceptable...
 

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I never felt a click / shift in my 2012 Kia Optima SX or on my Stinger for the first 900 miles. It just started happening recently. Either way, it is unacceptable...
It didn't do it in your 2012. The new 2016's or newer do it with the 2.0L

It's the way they're designed...
 

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I, for one, will agree that the clicking and movement of the pedal is disconcerting. Also, the trans should be smart enough to know whether to downshift or not based on throttle input.
 
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It's only on Wide Open Throttle. MANY cars do it (Nissan Altima, Honda Accord). It's a report to the ECU to down shift and not to hold back.

You should only be feeling the click when on the floor.
When Han tells Chewy to "Punch it!" the whizzing of the stars and associated noise is light speed. That's a feature, not a problem.

NOTE My Mazda 6 also has this. A host of cars do... It's a feature. Use it.
 

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The clicking accelerator pedal at the end of travel during WOT took me off guard initially too, and wasn't exactly sure what it was doing (but realized it was clearly engineered that way) until reading the explanation a few posts back by [MENTION=48]TurboTx[/MENTION]. Many thanks!
 
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Looks like the sunroof wind whistle is gone after a few more open and close cycles, which is good but will be keeping an eye on it.

Hopefully the unbalanced / minimal heat in the foot well (either on dedicated foot setting or split defrost / foot) is adjustable down there as the rest of the inside is fine at 68 - 70. Has anyone else experienced this?
 

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I've not noticed any temp issues and it's been from 50 above to 10 below zero Fahrenheit around here since purchase.
 
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Dropped my 2.0T Premium off today for service.

Service Technician was able to reproduce (3 times) shifting from Park to Manual shift mode (very smooth / continuous motion that is quite quick) and the car drives backwards a few feet. Will be interesting to see what Kia says about this. I think it is quite a safety hazard and design flaw.

Really hope the hatch creak is fixed / addressed the first time. Also hope they can do something about the foot well heat. Also maybe some pedal adjustment to address the full throttle issue / bad design...
 
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Hi [MENTION=307]sbrownnw[/MENTION] did you ever find out what was causing the pedal clicking noise? I'm in the Seattle area too.
 

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Hi [MENTION=307]sbrownnw[/MENTION] did you ever find out what was causing the pedal clicking noise? I'm in the Seattle area too.
The click on the gas pedal is at wide open throttle and is a switch designed to tell the ECU to go full bore and downshift.

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I'm sure everything will be sorted by the 2019 model. I've never had a Kia so I have no idea how good they are to get on top of things. or how good the service departments are, generally.
 
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Well, they finally fixed my creaky hatch after adjusting the striker (silver loop where the latch on the hatchback connects to when shutting), which is good news.

Still no updates on the manual shift mode problem with car driving in reverse instead of forward as expected.

Both of the above issues were brought to the Kia west coast escalation manager.

Also, my driver's side heat is confirmed to be at least 10 degrees cooler. Might try pulling fuses to attempt to reset climate system or maybe a full computer reset? What are the steps for doing a full computer reset?
 
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Wonder if the temperature difference (driver's side vs passenger's side) is related to this issue here. Seems like it could be. People's legs should not be getting burned when riding in the car. I think Kia could have a big problem here on their hands once summer comes around.
 
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The click on the gas pedal is at wide open throttle and is a switch designed to tell the ECU to go full bore and downshift.

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I wonder if this is Hyundai's workaround for preventing LSPI??
 

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How so?
 

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